I had no idea you were getting criticized like that and by people I've enjoyed following. Yes, Bilek seems to have gone off the rails. I love Gluck! Thank you for hanging in there and advocating for women and girls. As a survivor and a therapist who specializes in helping women and children in recovery from male violence, I thank you!
Looking forward to your website; I’ve always found your writing and podcasts helpful for gaining a deeper understanding of this issue.
It seems like some people want there to be a purely academic view of what is deemed acceptable behaviour in society and that this must be kept sealed off from human feeling. Yes, our emotions can narrow our vision at times, but to think you can take a wholly scientific approach to human issues is just as blinkered. The irony of essentially being judged immoral for the sin of moralising isn’t lost on me either.
Can anyone please clarify whether the Michael Bailey mentioned here as a pedo-compromiser is the same J Michael Bailey who wrote The Man Who Would Be Queen? I'd be very disappointed to hear that its him since the exposure of Blanchard's typology is key to busting the trans mythology.
Same guy. I wrote this long piece on him. Scratch a sexologist, find a pedophile apologist is the rule. Speaking the truth is the key. That people feel they need male sex experts to say it’s creepy for men to wank in womens clothes and bathrooms is the problem.
Thank you for replying - I'm disappointed but it seems to be a real pattern here with people who originally turned over the trans rock going back to a middle-groundist position. Blanchard himself and Alice Dreger among them.
Thankyou Edie, whatever you write in future will be well worth a read.
Working in child protection, I’m troubled by the failure to recognise boys (and the men they grow up to be) as victims of male violence and abuse. I think this maybe is a huge part of why there is a prevailing view men can’t be fixed.
I've never liked the words "gender critical." I prefer "realist." One either lives in reality or lives in fantasy and using gender critical seems to put one in a defensive posture and repeats the abused word "gender." I also have zero budge on boundaries, both mental and physical. The physical is obvious, but the emotional aggression by both men and women, inflicted on women who trust their own brain activity is something to behold. I've lived it my entire life and left a few screaming in my wake because I politely disagreed with a pronouncement by a male and/or politely declined a lesson by a male who had no idea what he was talking about or thought he knew better than me how to get something done that I was working on (see appendage below). "There will be some women...who will believe men over women, just based on facile accusations of poor character and dark motives." It doesn't even take negative accusations. All it takes is a male to say something in conflict with a female and the external appendage grants him the automatic worship of whatever tumbles out of his mouth. "The obligation of the state to protect women and children from men, is a key feminist tenet." On this I will say the state has as one of its primary obligations (in the USA) the duty to try and protect all from criminals. For me there's also an obligation that male and female adults have to protect children. There's also an obligation, imo, for all adults to take reasonable steps to protect oneself from criminals. I was disappointed when Peter Boghossian interviewed a feminist I admire and when he asked (to paraphrase) what steps women can take to look out for their own safety, she attacked him as blaming the victims. To me her reaction was suggesting women are toddlers with zero agency. I thought back to the 3 athletic men (2 of them brothers), doing a surfing vacation in a remote part of Mexico. They were murdered for the tires on their truck and as I was devastated for their families, I was also remembering some words of wisdom from an uncle who told me he drove an old beater of a car so he wouldn't be a target of criminals. I'm in the USA where women have access to pepper spray, firearms and other tools, and I also understand the laws and culture of other countries make it harder for women, but we're still never helpless. Another reason for my disappointment was because I have no doubt Peter Boghossian is one of the majority of males who would intervene if a woman or minor was under attack. I'm not at war with "men," but I will fight any misogynist man or woman who is at war with my independent womanhood and who violates my boundaries.
I couldn’t have protected myself, I was a child, to suggest otherwise is grossly offensive. Women gaining rights through collective action is an act of self protection. Boghosian is a moron and Kara was right and you are wrong in this instance.
Turning your response over in my head some more, there’s no 100% way to handle every situation for every single person, adult or child. I don’t know your individual, childhood situation, but to suggest women (or men or children) can’t be taught ways to try and avoid or defend from predators is irresponsible, even if it always doesn’t succeed. 1968 California there was a serial killer, Ray Alcala, who picked up an 8-yr-old walking home from school. Told her he was sent by her parents. Luckily for her, there was an observant man driving by and he didn’t like it and followed to an apartment complex, calling the cops from a payphone. The killer escaped out the back when the cop arrived and the little girl was found raped in a pool of blood having been beaten into a coma with a crowbar. She spent 3 months in a coma but survived. In an interview she stated how her parents told her to always trust adults. Alcala booked town and I believe it was him who drove through San Rafael on his way to NY. He attempted to talk another 8-yr-old walking home from school into his car. This kid ignored him, having been taught by her father that there were predators about and do not trust. He even circled and tried again. This time the kid went up the lawn she was crossing to head for the neighbor’s door. Alcala left for adult hunting grounds in NY. And here I am today.
Nowhere did I suggest children should have to protect themselves and your strawman is grossly offensive to me. For me there's a natural obligation all men and women have to protect children. There's also an obligation, imo, for each adult to take reasonable steps to protect oneself from criminals. Our justice system is there to try and protect all of us, but none of us have a cop in our back pockets and being very independent, I take steps to protect myself. Adults (male and female) in my opinion, have a duty to not only protect children but a duty to consider their own personal safety. I was devastated to read about 3 healthy men, 2 of them brothers, murdered on a surfing trip to Mexico. They drove a nice truck and were killed for the tires. My uncle would have told them they should have rented a wreck to drive so as to lessen the chance of being a target. Now there are devastated parents. I do not "blame the victims" but wish more men and women were aware of their personal safety. I remember back in 1969/70 in 5th grade law enforcement coming to our school to talk about safety. We were separated by sex in the auditorium instead of by our class (weird). The LEOs started with the girls, turning towards us and proceeded to tell us that if we were grabbed, to not fight back or we could get hurt worse. They then turned to the boys and told them if they were grabbed to punch and scream. This 1969 attitude is what I'm hearing from some who call themselves feminists.
From what I have seen it's Van Dyke who has been calling Gluck creepy. Granted, she has been featured on Bilek's site. Gluck, Slatz, et al are doing valuable work showcasing the perverts and sex pests behind this movement
I had no idea you were getting criticized like that and by people I've enjoyed following. Yes, Bilek seems to have gone off the rails. I love Gluck! Thank you for hanging in there and advocating for women and girls. As a survivor and a therapist who specializes in helping women and children in recovery from male violence, I thank you!
Thank you. We can only be ourselves and adapt as much as possible to the needs of readers. And I can’t unlearn what it is like to
be at the bottom of the stack.
You seem like the only normal person. I've found your writing balanced, and always look forward to reading you.
Thank you Julie
The way I see it Edie, you pissed off all the right people for all the right reasons. I look forward to your new project.
Cheers
Looking forward to your website; I’ve always found your writing and podcasts helpful for gaining a deeper understanding of this issue.
It seems like some people want there to be a purely academic view of what is deemed acceptable behaviour in society and that this must be kept sealed off from human feeling. Yes, our emotions can narrow our vision at times, but to think you can take a wholly scientific approach to human issues is just as blinkered. The irony of essentially being judged immoral for the sin of moralising isn’t lost on me either.
Thanks Becca. We have to own our bias. Not everyone does, that’s for sure
And you are brave, Edith. You are only telling the truth. Please keep posting.
If one isn’t an “ultra”, is one truly interested in protecting the rights — all of them — of women & girls? Or even children of both sexes?
There is no room for compromise when it comes to safeguarding & truthtelling.
Keep your elbows up, Edie!
💪💪🇨🇦
Can anyone please clarify whether the Michael Bailey mentioned here as a pedo-compromiser is the same J Michael Bailey who wrote The Man Who Would Be Queen? I'd be very disappointed to hear that its him since the exposure of Blanchard's typology is key to busting the trans mythology.
Same guy. I wrote this long piece on him. Scratch a sexologist, find a pedophile apologist is the rule. Speaking the truth is the key. That people feel they need male sex experts to say it’s creepy for men to wank in womens clothes and bathrooms is the problem.
https://open.substack.com/pub/msediewyatt/p/clinical-discourses?r=1iess0&utm_medium=ios
Thank you for replying - I'm disappointed but it seems to be a real pattern here with people who originally turned over the trans rock going back to a middle-groundist position. Blanchard himself and Alice Dreger among them.
Yep it’s something Genspect don’t want us to notice but it would take some hypocrisy to ignore it
Thankyou Edie, whatever you write in future will be well worth a read.
Working in child protection, I’m troubled by the failure to recognise boys (and the men they grow up to be) as victims of male violence and abuse. I think this maybe is a huge part of why there is a prevailing view men can’t be fixed.
My husband and his four brothers were victims of male violence, along with their mother. The effects have been devastating
Stream of Consciousness is Where Truth Lies
Edie, sorry. Auto correct.
My grandmother was Edith and that’s who I’m named after. Same name
I've never liked the words "gender critical." I prefer "realist." One either lives in reality or lives in fantasy and using gender critical seems to put one in a defensive posture and repeats the abused word "gender." I also have zero budge on boundaries, both mental and physical. The physical is obvious, but the emotional aggression by both men and women, inflicted on women who trust their own brain activity is something to behold. I've lived it my entire life and left a few screaming in my wake because I politely disagreed with a pronouncement by a male and/or politely declined a lesson by a male who had no idea what he was talking about or thought he knew better than me how to get something done that I was working on (see appendage below). "There will be some women...who will believe men over women, just based on facile accusations of poor character and dark motives." It doesn't even take negative accusations. All it takes is a male to say something in conflict with a female and the external appendage grants him the automatic worship of whatever tumbles out of his mouth. "The obligation of the state to protect women and children from men, is a key feminist tenet." On this I will say the state has as one of its primary obligations (in the USA) the duty to try and protect all from criminals. For me there's also an obligation that male and female adults have to protect children. There's also an obligation, imo, for all adults to take reasonable steps to protect oneself from criminals. I was disappointed when Peter Boghossian interviewed a feminist I admire and when he asked (to paraphrase) what steps women can take to look out for their own safety, she attacked him as blaming the victims. To me her reaction was suggesting women are toddlers with zero agency. I thought back to the 3 athletic men (2 of them brothers), doing a surfing vacation in a remote part of Mexico. They were murdered for the tires on their truck and as I was devastated for their families, I was also remembering some words of wisdom from an uncle who told me he drove an old beater of a car so he wouldn't be a target of criminals. I'm in the USA where women have access to pepper spray, firearms and other tools, and I also understand the laws and culture of other countries make it harder for women, but we're still never helpless. Another reason for my disappointment was because I have no doubt Peter Boghossian is one of the majority of males who would intervene if a woman or minor was under attack. I'm not at war with "men," but I will fight any misogynist man or woman who is at war with my independent womanhood and who violates my boundaries.
I couldn’t have protected myself, I was a child, to suggest otherwise is grossly offensive. Women gaining rights through collective action is an act of self protection. Boghosian is a moron and Kara was right and you are wrong in this instance.
Turning your response over in my head some more, there’s no 100% way to handle every situation for every single person, adult or child. I don’t know your individual, childhood situation, but to suggest women (or men or children) can’t be taught ways to try and avoid or defend from predators is irresponsible, even if it always doesn’t succeed. 1968 California there was a serial killer, Ray Alcala, who picked up an 8-yr-old walking home from school. Told her he was sent by her parents. Luckily for her, there was an observant man driving by and he didn’t like it and followed to an apartment complex, calling the cops from a payphone. The killer escaped out the back when the cop arrived and the little girl was found raped in a pool of blood having been beaten into a coma with a crowbar. She spent 3 months in a coma but survived. In an interview she stated how her parents told her to always trust adults. Alcala booked town and I believe it was him who drove through San Rafael on his way to NY. He attempted to talk another 8-yr-old walking home from school into his car. This kid ignored him, having been taught by her father that there were predators about and do not trust. He even circled and tried again. This time the kid went up the lawn she was crossing to head for the neighbor’s door. Alcala left for adult hunting grounds in NY. And here I am today.
Nowhere did I suggest children should have to protect themselves and your strawman is grossly offensive to me. For me there's a natural obligation all men and women have to protect children. There's also an obligation, imo, for each adult to take reasonable steps to protect oneself from criminals. Our justice system is there to try and protect all of us, but none of us have a cop in our back pockets and being very independent, I take steps to protect myself. Adults (male and female) in my opinion, have a duty to not only protect children but a duty to consider their own personal safety. I was devastated to read about 3 healthy men, 2 of them brothers, murdered on a surfing trip to Mexico. They drove a nice truck and were killed for the tires. My uncle would have told them they should have rented a wreck to drive so as to lessen the chance of being a target. Now there are devastated parents. I do not "blame the victims" but wish more men and women were aware of their personal safety. I remember back in 1969/70 in 5th grade law enforcement coming to our school to talk about safety. We were separated by sex in the auditorium instead of by our class (weird). The LEOs started with the girls, turning towards us and proceeded to tell us that if we were grabbed, to not fight back or we could get hurt worse. They then turned to the boys and told them if they were grabbed to punch and scream. This 1969 attitude is what I'm hearing from some who call themselves feminists.
From what I have seen it's Van Dyke who has been calling Gluck creepy. Granted, she has been featured on Bilek's site. Gluck, Slatz, et al are doing valuable work showcasing the perverts and sex pests behind this movement