This is brilliant, so Australian and goes right to the core of what is wrong with our present state. Made me cry and be a nostalgic mess :-) thank you.
Thanks Edie for doing the ground work on looking into the 'new' hate crime laws and what is upon us women. I feel alarmed, very alarmed. We are being thrown to the wolves! The law (law of the land!) has never favoured women i.m.o. Designed by men to protect men's interest and wealth AND supremacy. Now we see that certain men who self ID as 'women', will be more protected than women born and raised female. And any woman who objects and refuses to play this game, can be thrown in jail?! Tell me this is not a witch hunt?! I see this as a massive backlash on the liberation of women. The 'she males' taking over and reasserting their dominance as we can see everywhere. I try not to despair.
YessireeBob "The law is an ass " - meaning- in my book ; laws can only kick out like a mule - after the fact- poorly worded or poorly made law contains unforseen or unintended conflicts for womens' children and Mother's rights or Our rights to saying NO - Our protections hitherto NOT CONSIDERED by the cogniscenti entitled to make and produce such disgraceful results - vulnerable sexed woman as women and girls - And all impressionable others - The law is sexist as is the economic neo liberal system which creates such inequities ; Sure a few born women can overcome the inequity especially if they are extra smart, lucky or can play the game But check out the BRW top 100 richest - Stats peeps
Big Brother's Propaganda Updates: "War is Peace, Love is Hate, Trans-women ARE Women, and "Ignorance is Strength." Oh, yeah, and the latest addition - "Acknowledging Biological Sex is Hate."
You guys need to sue, sue, sue for the discrimination that the law itself constitutes against the female sex. Is Germaine Greer still involved or is she hanging out in the UK?
Germaine last seen on a face to face interview with David Wenham an Aust. Actor On a show called "One Plus One"- Germaine still insightful but seemed somewhat despondent ; she said she was stuck in a maximum aged care facility ! Horrible even our Queen of human Rights is vulnerable to the incarceration / profiteer multinational data industrial estate - I want to save her - She can live with me any day - how about it sisterhood? We can all support her as she like darling Barry iconoclasts from Melbourne were treated like shit by the self annointed Melbourne cultural cognoscenti and that dull second rate Uni in the UK ( wankers) ; she might give us all a good kick up the proverbials ! Save Germaine from the nefarious aged care industry too - women are used as fodder imho in this industry too
A possibly-dumb question from the US, based on the end of your piece: has Queensland (or Australia as a whole) previously punished violence against women more severely than the same violence committed by a man against another? I'm a little confused by your wording combined with my lack of knowledge about Australian law. You quote someone talking about "the removal" of sex as a protected characteristic, and you place it in the context of violence against women.
I ask because, in the US, we are facing calls for expansion of our hate crime legislation. Most states, as well as the federal system here, have had hate crime enhancements for some time-meaning crimes are punished more severely if found to be motivated by hate for a protected group. The specifics of the bills vary by state, but from what I've observed, these laws have pretty much exclusively been used to prosecute racially motivated crimes, as well as perhaps an occasional crime against someone based on their sexuality. It would not surprise me if some prosecutor somewhere has tried to use their hate crime law for violence against a trans identified person, but I have not personally heard of anyone actually being charged that way-yet. However, despite a very serious problem here with violence against women, especially domestic violence, I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for a hate crime against the female sex, which is unfortunate as domestic violence is much more likely than other forms of assault to progressively become more severe and too often eventually end in murder.
Your wording makes me wonder if Australia has previously prosecuted crimes against women more severely, but has now made that impossible? Or am I just reading this very wrong?
I don’t understand what you are asking. The aggravator will make a crime more serious if there is judged to be a hate crime motive against a protected characteristic
The fact that rape and domestic violence is excluded from hate crime laws showed me from the beginning how bogus they are. Women receive a large share of the hate and violence in the US and yet we are the least protected. So I call bullshit on the whole concept.
Well in a way - women sentences are harsher relative to their extenuating situation ; for example - a poor woman who was a victim of the man she ended up killing while he'd lain in a drunken stupor ( the beast had beaten her dog to death, he repeatedly abused and had beat on her and her son and put out cigarettes on her body Some of the facts of his brutality over many years) Any who with the assistsnce of her son she and him disposed of his body - Later she confessed and she cane forward to report the incident ; The court found her adult son was not gulity of accessory ; after judge instructed and deigned son's actions excused due to his absence of intent and were syptomatic of the abuse he'd experienced ; but she got life and the fact she had acted in self defence was not accepted ; she premeditated the actions -Successive govt refused to commute her sentence or look at female victims inability to use like force - womens biological reality
Yep. women are on their own. Never report or confess. Try not to involve a second person, especially a family member. The law is not on your side so why be on the side of the law?
Ill remember your wise instruction ; but "darl" I'm afraid the Legal System uses a myopic, unsophisticated boof head brigade to roll out poor policy - too often such gatekeepers ; use women - using the naive or vulnerable- dismissive and disregarded as naughty and bad women - wanton woman paradigm still is perpetuated even by our sisterhood ; like the bloody "Hunger Games "we too often compete and clamour for the top down scraps from Handmaidens - Women are expendable socially and add to that jealous men who want a bit of our "flavour " ... The ugly misogynists want a slice of our 'special sauce' ... I say the law views a winner and loser and when the State introduces mixed sex prisons women loose; in the skewered false statistics ; women loose- male biological proclivity for violence statistically round 98% ; now those crimes falsely attributed to women ; making tougher penalties for real women overall ; as sentencing is partly modelled on crime prevention ; and the men who self ID get preferential treatment ; Women are again made dispensible " loser"
This is brilliant, so Australian and goes right to the core of what is wrong with our present state. Made me cry and be a nostalgic mess :-) thank you.
Thanks Andrew
Thanks Edie for doing the ground work on looking into the 'new' hate crime laws and what is upon us women. I feel alarmed, very alarmed. We are being thrown to the wolves! The law (law of the land!) has never favoured women i.m.o. Designed by men to protect men's interest and wealth AND supremacy. Now we see that certain men who self ID as 'women', will be more protected than women born and raised female. And any woman who objects and refuses to play this game, can be thrown in jail?! Tell me this is not a witch hunt?! I see this as a massive backlash on the liberation of women. The 'she males' taking over and reasserting their dominance as we can see everywhere. I try not to despair.
YessireeBob "The law is an ass " - meaning- in my book ; laws can only kick out like a mule - after the fact- poorly worded or poorly made law contains unforseen or unintended conflicts for womens' children and Mother's rights or Our rights to saying NO - Our protections hitherto NOT CONSIDERED by the cogniscenti entitled to make and produce such disgraceful results - vulnerable sexed woman as women and girls - And all impressionable others - The law is sexist as is the economic neo liberal system which creates such inequities ; Sure a few born women can overcome the inequity especially if they are extra smart, lucky or can play the game But check out the BRW top 100 richest - Stats peeps
Big Brother's Propaganda Updates: "War is Peace, Love is Hate, Trans-women ARE Women, and "Ignorance is Strength." Oh, yeah, and the latest addition - "Acknowledging Biological Sex is Hate."
You guys need to sue, sue, sue for the discrimination that the law itself constitutes against the female sex. Is Germaine Greer still involved or is she hanging out in the UK?
Germaine last seen on a face to face interview with David Wenham an Aust. Actor On a show called "One Plus One"- Germaine still insightful but seemed somewhat despondent ; she said she was stuck in a maximum aged care facility ! Horrible even our Queen of human Rights is vulnerable to the incarceration / profiteer multinational data industrial estate - I want to save her - She can live with me any day - how about it sisterhood? We can all support her as she like darling Barry iconoclasts from Melbourne were treated like shit by the self annointed Melbourne cultural cognoscenti and that dull second rate Uni in the UK ( wankers) ; she might give us all a good kick up the proverbials ! Save Germaine from the nefarious aged care industry too - women are used as fodder imho in this industry too
A possibly-dumb question from the US, based on the end of your piece: has Queensland (or Australia as a whole) previously punished violence against women more severely than the same violence committed by a man against another? I'm a little confused by your wording combined with my lack of knowledge about Australian law. You quote someone talking about "the removal" of sex as a protected characteristic, and you place it in the context of violence against women.
I ask because, in the US, we are facing calls for expansion of our hate crime legislation. Most states, as well as the federal system here, have had hate crime enhancements for some time-meaning crimes are punished more severely if found to be motivated by hate for a protected group. The specifics of the bills vary by state, but from what I've observed, these laws have pretty much exclusively been used to prosecute racially motivated crimes, as well as perhaps an occasional crime against someone based on their sexuality. It would not surprise me if some prosecutor somewhere has tried to use their hate crime law for violence against a trans identified person, but I have not personally heard of anyone actually being charged that way-yet. However, despite a very serious problem here with violence against women, especially domestic violence, I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for a hate crime against the female sex, which is unfortunate as domestic violence is much more likely than other forms of assault to progressively become more severe and too often eventually end in murder.
Your wording makes me wonder if Australia has previously prosecuted crimes against women more severely, but has now made that impossible? Or am I just reading this very wrong?
I don’t understand what you are asking. The aggravator will make a crime more serious if there is judged to be a hate crime motive against a protected characteristic
The fact that rape and domestic violence is excluded from hate crime laws showed me from the beginning how bogus they are. Women receive a large share of the hate and violence in the US and yet we are the least protected. So I call bullshit on the whole concept.
Well in a way - women sentences are harsher relative to their extenuating situation ; for example - a poor woman who was a victim of the man she ended up killing while he'd lain in a drunken stupor ( the beast had beaten her dog to death, he repeatedly abused and had beat on her and her son and put out cigarettes on her body Some of the facts of his brutality over many years) Any who with the assistsnce of her son she and him disposed of his body - Later she confessed and she cane forward to report the incident ; The court found her adult son was not gulity of accessory ; after judge instructed and deigned son's actions excused due to his absence of intent and were syptomatic of the abuse he'd experienced ; but she got life and the fact she had acted in self defence was not accepted ; she premeditated the actions -Successive govt refused to commute her sentence or look at female victims inability to use like force - womens biological reality
Yep. women are on their own. Never report or confess. Try not to involve a second person, especially a family member. The law is not on your side so why be on the side of the law?
Ill remember your wise instruction ; but "darl" I'm afraid the Legal System uses a myopic, unsophisticated boof head brigade to roll out poor policy - too often such gatekeepers ; use women - using the naive or vulnerable- dismissive and disregarded as naughty and bad women - wanton woman paradigm still is perpetuated even by our sisterhood ; like the bloody "Hunger Games "we too often compete and clamour for the top down scraps from Handmaidens - Women are expendable socially and add to that jealous men who want a bit of our "flavour " ... The ugly misogynists want a slice of our 'special sauce' ... I say the law views a winner and loser and when the State introduces mixed sex prisons women loose; in the skewered false statistics ; women loose- male biological proclivity for violence statistically round 98% ; now those crimes falsely attributed to women ; making tougher penalties for real women overall ; as sentencing is partly modelled on crime prevention ; and the men who self ID get preferential treatment ; Women are again made dispensible " loser"